Tuesday, July 22, 2008

FISA in 30 seconds or less

I posted this back in February, but it bears repeating:

Russ Feingold explains it all:

7 comments:

Mary Ellen said...

Good to know that Obama is watching our backs...oh wait, he voted yes on that bill!

What concerns me is how the progressives just shrugged their shoulders and say they will vote for him anyway...cuz, you know...he's THE ONE.

Liberality said...

I can't get the youtube to play. Oh, I get it, the Bush folks don't want us to watch this...

Sue J said...

I know, Mary Ellen. Personally, I feel we're almost faced with a Sophie's Choice situation (although I wouldn't have said that a few weeks ago, before Obama "did what he had to do to get elected"). Clearly of the two main candidates, he is better than McCain. And McCain is such an abomination (see, fundamentalists -- I can use that word, too!), that I personally would not feel comfortable (a) voting for him, or (b) not voting -- which I have never done.

I will vote for Obama in November, but he had better keep his promise and get FISA right! And we had all better insist on our Congress members getting it right, as well!

Sue J said...

liberality, hmmmmm. Not sure why it's not playing for you. The volume is kinda low, and maybe it's getting a lot of hits on You Tube -- that would be nice, wouldn't it?!

Mary Ellen said...

sue j- I don't think of this election as a "Sophie's Choice", it's very clear to me how corrupt and dishonest Obama is. I would think that his statement that the progressives "just weren't listening" to him after he was going through his week of flip-flops, is pretty clear...he's NOT a progressive and he will not "fix" FISA. For one thing, he can't "fix" it...it's law now. If he wanted to fix it, why didn't he filibuster it? Why didn't he vote for the amendments that would fix it when they came up before the vote. He said earlier that he would do everything he could to take the immunity for the telecoms off the bill, and yet he couldn't even bother to show up and vote on those amendments? Oh...and just an interesting note, after that vote, AT&T had decided to foot the bill for the Democratic Convention...coincidence? I think not.

For all those progressives who screamed about Bush and how he was shredding our Constitution, how is it acceptable on any level that Obama handed him the scissors to do so?

I wouldn't "hope" that Obama will fix anything, and he will not give back the power that Bush took away from Congress, he'll keep every bit if it and now he will have even more power...the power to listen in on our phone calls, read our e-mails, and do searches on our homes without a warrant. How is that Democratic?

Sue J said...

Mary Ellen, I guess I'm just trying to come to terms with the idea of supporting Obama. I think the real power in this country lies in Congress, and that's where we've got to focus our energy. We as citizens must be more forceful in our opinions to our members. This Democratic leadership, for example, has been such a horrible disappointment -- but we the people have let them get away with it.

Obama as president? Would still be better than McCain. Though not as good as Hillary.

I know I will never "convince" you to vote for Obama in the fall, and I wouldn't try. I'm just trying to describe my own internal struggles as I think about stepping into the voting booth in November.

Mary Ellen said...

sue- I know that you would never try to convince me to vote anything other than my own convictions. I certainly respect that you have your own opinion on this and hope you don't think I was trying to tell you my way is the only way. Heck, if everyone did what I do...this world would be even more "effed" up than it already is. ;-)